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> <channel><title>Comments on: Why I&#8217;m Joining The Lib Dems</title> <atom:link href="http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2010/04/why-im-joining-the-lib-dems/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2010/04/why-im-joining-the-lib-dems/</link> <description>Mobiles, Shakespeare, Politics, Usability.</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 17:59:37 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Mrs CBR Eden</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2010/04/why-im-joining-the-lib-dems/#comment-6792</link> <dc:creator>Mrs CBR Eden</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 00:50:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=2015#comment-6792</guid> <description>Vote yellow get blue!  So sorry for all the hopeful Libs that they were once again fooled by the hype.  Do hope that pr does come into force as it is logical but not at the expense of morals.  Labour regained many councils including my own Camden which demonstrates how the electorate really loathed the lib/con coalition of the past four years.  Is there a lesson to be learnt here?  Be careful with whom you sleep and use protection.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vote yellow get blue!  So sorry for all the hopeful Libs that they were once again fooled by the hype.  Do hope that pr does come into force as it is logical but not at the expense of morals.  Labour regained many councils including my own Camden which demonstrates how the electorate really loathed the lib/con coalition of the past four years.  Is there a lesson to be learnt here?  Be careful with whom you sleep and use protection.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tom Miller</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2010/04/why-im-joining-the-lib-dems/#comment-6590</link> <dc:creator>Tom Miller</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 14:12:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=2015#comment-6590</guid> <description>Well, let me be the last for making apologies for our absurd voting system. All the Surrey MPs are Tory. Yet 150,000 residents voted Lib Dem, and 80,000 Labour. Neither have any representation at a national level, which is absurd in itself.In terms of other conclusions, there are some things where I feel (predictably) different.&quot;How can a party govern without a popular mandate unless they work with other parties?&quot;This is true. But the question is which they would choose. Some parties (e.g. the BNP) are clearly beyond the pale. I think that a lot of likely Tory policies post election are damaging enough for any sensible progressive to rule out working with them entirely. Forgive my invocation of history; You will know of Ramsay MacDonald, and his &#039;national Labour&#039; split from the Labour Party, made in order to go in with an anti-workforce, cut happy Tory government, after an enormous worldwide financial shock.It seems to me that history may repeat this; only now the left-of-centre party prepared to work with them is that which arose from the Liberals and the SDP, and Labour is more cohesively anti-Tory within its own ambit. We still may end up with a big chunk of the purported &#039;left&#039; putting through their despicable budgets for them, a la 1931.For me, preventing heir measures from assaulting the population is absolutely key; for a variety of reasons I don&#039;t believe that a Lib Dem MP would make any contribution to that. As in the days of MacDonald, an independent alternative backed by those who would be most profoundly affected is the only thing that can solve the problem.Labour won&#039;t work with the Tories. And constituents have my personal guarantee that if the Labour Party did make such a decision (as in Germany), I would resign my membership.If elected, I would also work for a referendum on the various PR systems available to avoid people having this quandary in the future. In the meantime I shall be expecting all the Lib Dems in Labour/Tory marginals to stand aside for a tactical vote. Or perhaps that just won&#039;t happen... in that sense, in one this system actually plays rather well for them!Tom</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, let me be the last for making apologies for our absurd voting system. All the Surrey MPs are Tory. Yet 150,000 residents voted Lib Dem, and 80,000 Labour. Neither have any representation at a national level, which is absurd in itself.</p><p>In terms of other conclusions, there are some things where I feel (predictably) different.</p><p>&#8220;How can a party govern without a popular mandate unless they work with other parties?&#8221;</p><p>This is true. But the question is which they would choose. Some parties (e.g. the BNP) are clearly beyond the pale. I think that a lot of likely Tory policies post election are damaging enough for any sensible progressive to rule out working with them entirely. Forgive my invocation of history; You will know of Ramsay MacDonald, and his &#8216;national Labour&#8217; split from the Labour Party, made in order to go in with an anti-workforce, cut happy Tory government, after an enormous worldwide financial shock.</p><p>It seems to me that history may repeat this; only now the left-of-centre party prepared to work with them is that which arose from the Liberals and the SDP, and Labour is more cohesively anti-Tory within its own ambit. We still may end up with a big chunk of the purported &#8216;left&#8217; putting through their despicable budgets for them, a la 1931.</p><p>For me, preventing heir measures from assaulting the population is absolutely key; for a variety of reasons I don&#8217;t believe that a Lib Dem MP would make any contribution to that. As in the days of MacDonald, an independent alternative backed by those who would be most profoundly affected is the only thing that can solve the problem.</p><p>Labour won&#8217;t work with the Tories. And constituents have my personal guarantee that if the Labour Party did make such a decision (as in Germany), I would resign my membership.</p><p>If elected, I would also work for a referendum on the various PR systems available to avoid people having this quandary in the future. In the meantime I shall be expecting all the Lib Dems in Labour/Tory marginals to stand aside for a tactical vote. Or perhaps that just won&#8217;t happen&#8230; in that sense, in one this system actually plays rather well for them!</p><p>Tom</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Terence Eden</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2010/04/why-im-joining-the-lib-dems/#comment-6579</link> <dc:creator>Terence Eden</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:48:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=2015#comment-6579</guid> <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;“Equally, I’m sure that they’ve (Tories) got one or two good ideas somewhere.”&lt;br /&gt; Name them!&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Scrapping ID cards for one (assuming they would - but that&#039;s the same assumption you make with any manifesto).  Expensive, illiberal, and not justified by evidence.I agree with you re the rest, though.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“Equally, I’m sure that they’ve (Tories) got one or two good ideas somewhere.”<br
/> Name them!</p></blockquote><p>Scrapping ID cards for one (assuming they would &#8211; but that&#8217;s the same assumption you make with any manifesto).  Expensive, illiberal, and not justified by evidence.</p><p>I agree with you re the rest, though.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mrs CBR Eden</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2010/04/why-im-joining-the-lib-dems/#comment-6570</link> <dc:creator>Mrs CBR Eden</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 23:50:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=2015#comment-6570</guid> <description>&quot;Equally, I’m sure that they’ve (Tories) got one or two good ideas somewhere.
&quot; Name them!
(&quot;Did Mrs Thatcher steal Hansel and Gretel&#039;s money too?&quot; )
The Tories believe that only by feathering the nests of the rich can the &quot;common man&quot; prosper.  The Lord of The Manor knows best.  Trade Unions are evil and the minimum wage (plus holiday pay for temporary workers) has blighted business.  Sure we survived the Thatcher years and we shall survive the Cameron Chaos but this cult of celebrity leadership is so trite and demeaning. If I lived in Woking I would vote Liberal with a heavy heart but in Holbron I&#039;ll work my socks off for Dobson and to regain the council from the sad lib/con coalition.  But it is to Barking that we must look.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Equally, I’m sure that they’ve (Tories) got one or two good ideas somewhere.<br
/> &#8221; Name them!<br
/> (&#8220;Did Mrs Thatcher steal Hansel and Gretel&#8217;s money too?&#8221; )<br
/> The Tories believe that only by feathering the nests of the rich can the &#8220;common man&#8221; prosper.  The Lord of The Manor knows best.  Trade Unions are evil and the minimum wage (plus holiday pay for temporary workers) has blighted business.  Sure we survived the Thatcher years and we shall survive the Cameron Chaos but this cult of celebrity leadership is so trite and demeaning. If I lived in Woking I would vote Liberal with a heavy heart but in Holbron I&#8217;ll work my socks off for Dobson and to regain the council from the sad lib/con coalition.  But it is to Barking that we must look.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Terence Eden</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2010/04/why-im-joining-the-lib-dems/#comment-6562</link> <dc:creator>Terence Eden</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 15:02:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=2015#comment-6562</guid> <description>Exactly - I don&#039;t want my voice wasted; I want it to count.  How can a party govern without a popular mandate &lt;i&gt;unless&lt;/i&gt; they work with other parties?Theoretically, imagine if Labour got 40% of the vote in every seat, with the rest split evenly between the Tories and the LibDems.  Would you really argue that was a sound basis for governing? 60% of the country being represented by someone they voted against?You know what - I&#039;m not afraid of the Tories.  Yes, I&#039;m sure they&#039;ll do some stuff I disagree with and some stuff I&#039;ll hate.  Guess what - so will the Labour Party and LibDem.  Equally, I&#039;m sure that they&#039;ve got one or two good ideas somewhere.  That&#039;s why coalitions are good.  It prevents the excessive madness of a legislative program dictated by an &quot;unbeatable&quot; government.Labour can&#039;t win in Woking. I truly wish you the best of luck, but unless Woking has the most incredible swing ever seen - it won&#039;t happen.  Given the swing to the LibDems (nationally), they are the best bet in keeping the Tories out.Don&#039;t you see the futility of this? &lt;b&gt;I want to vote for you!&lt;/b&gt; But the voting system Labour has been propping up for the last 13 years means I have to vote &lt;b&gt;against&lt;/b&gt; my wishes.Thanks for the comments - and good luck with your campaign.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly &#8211; I don&#8217;t want my voice wasted; I want it to count.  How can a party govern without a popular mandate <i>unless</i> they work with other parties?</p><p>Theoretically, imagine if Labour got 40% of the vote in every seat, with the rest split evenly between the Tories and the LibDems.  Would you really argue that was a sound basis for governing? 60% of the country being represented by someone they voted against?</p><p>You know what &#8211; I&#8217;m not afraid of the Tories.  Yes, I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;ll do some stuff I disagree with and some stuff I&#8217;ll hate.  Guess what &#8211; so will the Labour Party and LibDem.  Equally, I&#8217;m sure that they&#8217;ve got one or two good ideas somewhere.  That&#8217;s why coalitions are good.  It prevents the excessive madness of a legislative program dictated by an &#8220;unbeatable&#8221; government.</p><p>Labour can&#8217;t win in Woking. I truly wish you the best of luck, but unless Woking has the most incredible swing ever seen &#8211; it won&#8217;t happen.  Given the swing to the LibDems (nationally), they are the best bet in keeping the Tories out.</p><p>Don&#8217;t you see the futility of this? <b>I want to vote for you!</b> But the voting system Labour has been propping up for the last 13 years means I have to vote <b>against</b> my wishes.</p><p>Thanks for the comments &#8211; and good luck with your campaign.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tom Miller</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2010/04/why-im-joining-the-lib-dems/#comment-6561</link> <dc:creator>Tom Miller</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 14:48:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=2015#comment-6561</guid> <description>&quot;Because of the ridiculousness of “First Past The Post” any vote for a minority party would be wasted.  So I never got to vote Labour.  Instead, I read the Lib Dem and Conservative manifesto and picked the LibDems.&quot;On that, also, any vote that loses is effectively wasted under FPTP. Afterwards, if you picked a loser, you might as well ave picked any of the others.With regard to upcoming stuff, surely it&#039;s better to vote for someone who will rule out a programme of cooperation with the Tories? Otherwise you vote against them just to keep them in.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Because of the ridiculousness of “First Past The Post” any vote for a minority party would be wasted.  So I never got to vote Labour.  Instead, I read the Lib Dem and Conservative manifesto and picked the LibDems.&#8221;</p><p>On that, also, any vote that loses is effectively wasted under FPTP. Afterwards, if you picked a loser, you might as well ave picked any of the others.</p><p>With regard to upcoming stuff, surely it&#8217;s better to vote for someone who will rule out a programme of cooperation with the Tories? Otherwise you vote against them just to keep them in.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tom Miller</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2010/04/why-im-joining-the-lib-dems/#comment-6560</link> <dc:creator>Tom Miller</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 14:20:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=2015#comment-6560</guid> <description>Well, I can&#039;t agree obviously. For me, the only way that any of these things can really be achieved is b having a strong party allied to the labour movement, which organises those most motivated to respond to social injustice and gives them collected clout.Good luck with getting involved though.Tom</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I can&#8217;t agree obviously. For me, the only way that any of these things can really be achieved is b having a strong party allied to the labour movement, which organises those most motivated to respond to social injustice and gives them collected clout.</p><p>Good luck with getting involved though.</p><p>Tom</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Welcome to the new bloggers&#8230;</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2010/04/why-im-joining-the-lib-dems/#comment-6549</link> <dc:creator>Welcome to the new bloggers&#8230;</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 16:52:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=2015#comment-6549</guid> <description>[...] Eden &#8211; http://shkspr.mobi/blog/ &#8211; long time blogger but decided to join the party a few days [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Eden &#8211; <a
href="http://shkspr.mobi/blog/" rel="nofollow">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/</a> &#8211; long time blogger but decided to join the party a few days [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Andrew Hickey</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2010/04/why-im-joining-the-lib-dems/#comment-6530</link> <dc:creator>Andrew Hickey</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:56:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=2015#comment-6530</guid> <description>I understand your qualms (my own parents have the same ones, and in fact the memory of the SDP split was one of the things which made me put off joining for a few years). However, it wasn&#039;t the SDP split that helped Thatcher to get in - they didn&#039;t form until 1981.In this election it&#039;s definitely *NOT* going to be a Tory landslide - the very best they can hope for is to form a minority government. Have a look at http://ukelectiontrend.blogspot.com/ for example - it&#039;s just impossible for *any* party to get more than the tiniest majority this time round, and a Labour/Lib Dem coalition looks the most likely result.Remember as well that the Lib Dems are taking votes not just from Labour but from the Tories - the Conservative share in the polls has *plummeted* since the debates, since people who were thinking of voting Tory. In your own seat of Holborn And St Pancras, for example, the anti-government vote will likely go to the Lib Dem candidate, who has a small but real chance of beating Dobson, so those who were thinking of voting Tory will almost certainly now vote for Jo Shaw.(And as someone who unfortunately has Griffin as an MEP, I agree it would be terrible for him to get in in Barking. In the case of the BNP the important thing is just to get people out and voting at all - I&#039;ve taken part in several Hope Not Hate events to try to get out the anti-BNP vote, and there I don&#039;t care who they&#039;re supporting so long as it&#039;s not the BNP. )None of this is to try to change your mind - you should vote for whoever you want to win in your seat - just to say that you shouldn&#039;t worry unnecessarily. This isn&#039;t 1983, and the very real concerns that existed then don&#039;t exist now...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand your qualms (my own parents have the same ones, and in fact the memory of the SDP split was one of the things which made me put off joining for a few years). However, it wasn&#8217;t the SDP split that helped Thatcher to get in &#8211; they didn&#8217;t form until 1981.</p><p>In this election it&#8217;s definitely *NOT* going to be a Tory landslide &#8211; the very best they can hope for is to form a minority government. Have a look at <a
href="http://ukelectiontrend.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://ukelectiontrend.blogspot.com/</a> for example &#8211; it&#8217;s just impossible for *any* party to get more than the tiniest majority this time round, and a Labour/Lib Dem coalition looks the most likely result.</p><p>Remember as well that the Lib Dems are taking votes not just from Labour but from the Tories &#8211; the Conservative share in the polls has *plummeted* since the debates, since people who were thinking of voting Tory. In your own seat of Holborn And St Pancras, for example, the anti-government vote will likely go to the Lib Dem candidate, who has a small but real chance of beating Dobson, so those who were thinking of voting Tory will almost certainly now vote for Jo Shaw.</p><p>(And as someone who unfortunately has Griffin as an MEP, I agree it would be terrible for him to get in in Barking. In the case of the BNP the important thing is just to get people out and voting at all &#8211; I&#8217;ve taken part in several Hope Not Hate events to try to get out the anti-BNP vote, and there I don&#8217;t care who they&#8217;re supporting so long as it&#8217;s not the BNP. )</p><p>None of this is to try to change your mind &#8211; you should vote for whoever you want to win in your seat &#8211; just to say that you shouldn&#8217;t worry unnecessarily. This isn&#8217;t 1983, and the very real concerns that existed then don&#8217;t exist now&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mrs CBR Eden</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2010/04/why-im-joining-the-lib-dems/#comment-6529</link> <dc:creator>Mrs CBR Eden</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:32:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=2015#comment-6529</guid> <description>As the bossy one in the labour household in which Terry grew up I totally respect his decision to follow his conscience and vote for the party that most matches his convictions.   Living in such a Conservative strong hold as Woking means that it is neither brave nor foolish to vote Liberal.  What concerns me most are marginal Labour/Tory seats where the anti Tory vote is now going to be even more fractured thus ensuring a Tory landslide as in 1979 when the SDP (a vacillator by any other name) helped Thatcher to victory.  The problem is that Tory’s don’t change their spots whilst we real liberals, in the true sense of the word, have crises of conscience.  I am so saddened by the current government’s Trident and nuclear energy policies but want to fight from within.  I still believe that the only way to a true Socialist society is via the Labour Party.  However I can see that tactical voting is the only way to stop Cameron and his cronies destroying our rights such as the minimum wage.  To see how the split vote works look at the results of the London Mayoral Elections which resulted Boris raising public transport fares whilst the hooray henries have been spared congestion charges in the heartland of Kensington and Chelsea.  I shall vote Labour in Holborn and campaign in Barking where it is vital to stop the BNP; wouldn’t it be awful if the anti-government vote resulted in Griffin slipping through as victors?  Be careful what you wish for .......   (A proud mum)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the bossy one in the labour household in which Terry grew up I totally respect his decision to follow his conscience and vote for the party that most matches his convictions.   Living in such a Conservative strong hold as Woking means that it is neither brave nor foolish to vote Liberal.  What concerns me most are marginal Labour/Tory seats where the anti Tory vote is now going to be even more fractured thus ensuring a Tory landslide as in 1979 when the SDP (a vacillator by any other name) helped Thatcher to victory.  The problem is that Tory’s don’t change their spots whilst we real liberals, in the true sense of the word, have crises of conscience.  I am so saddened by the current government’s Trident and nuclear energy policies but want to fight from within.  I still believe that the only way to a true Socialist society is via the Labour Party.  However I can see that tactical voting is the only way to stop Cameron and his cronies destroying our rights such as the minimum wage.  To see how the split vote works look at the results of the London Mayoral Elections which resulted Boris raising public transport fares whilst the hooray henries have been spared congestion charges in the heartland of Kensington and Chelsea.  I shall vote Labour in Holborn and campaign in Barking where it is vital to stop the BNP; wouldn’t it be awful if the anti-government vote resulted in Griffin slipping through as victors?  Be careful what you wish for &#8230;&#8230;.   (A proud mum)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Andrew Hickey</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2010/04/why-im-joining-the-lib-dems/#comment-6528</link> <dc:creator>Andrew Hickey</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:23:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=2015#comment-6528</guid> <description>Unfortunately *all* parties have a lot of crappy councillors, because so few people care about local politics.That said (and this is honestly my experience, not just partisanship) while I&#039;m sure we have our fair share of bad ones, I honestly think that we do better in this regard than the other two parties, precisely because our strategy for decades has been to get councillors first, let people see we can be trusted in *local* government, and then try to get MPs in regions where we&#039;ve got councillors. That strategy wouldn&#039;t have been as successful as it has been, had our councillors been *that* bad.(Of course if we have bad councillors in your area, the obvious solution is to stand yourself!)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately *all* parties have a lot of crappy councillors, because so few people care about local politics.</p><p>That said (and this is honestly my experience, not just partisanship) while I&#8217;m sure we have our fair share of bad ones, I honestly think that we do better in this regard than the other two parties, precisely because our strategy for decades has been to get councillors first, let people see we can be trusted in *local* government, and then try to get MPs in regions where we&#8217;ve got councillors. That strategy wouldn&#8217;t have been as successful as it has been, had our councillors been *that* bad.</p><p>(Of course if we have bad councillors in your area, the obvious solution is to stand yourself!)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Scott Hughes</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2010/04/why-im-joining-the-lib-dems/#comment-6525</link> <dc:creator>Scott Hughes</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 10:08:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=2015#comment-6525</guid> <description>TerenceA great article and all valid comments that resonate with me. In the past I&#039;ve been a proponent of the wasted vote theory (although until recently I lived in a LibDem constituency - so I could vote LibDem and win!) but now I realise that in a Democracy no vote in a wasted vote and it&#039;s more important to vote for who you want to win rather than to engage in Tactical Voting. Only by voting correctly do we show the true sense of the failure of the two party system.So this time even though I know that the Conservatives might just beat Labour in my constituency I am going to vote on who I think should win, the Lib Dems.One more point. I often get the feeling that the local parties let the national party down as I keep seeing multiple comments complaining about the poor quality of local councillors. It worries me about them on a national level</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terence</p><p>A great article and all valid comments that resonate with me. In the past I&#8217;ve been a proponent of the wasted vote theory (although until recently I lived in a LibDem constituency &#8211; so I could vote LibDem and win!) but now I realise that in a Democracy no vote in a wasted vote and it&#8217;s more important to vote for who you want to win rather than to engage in Tactical Voting. Only by voting correctly do we show the true sense of the failure of the two party system.</p><p>So this time even though I know that the Conservatives might just beat Labour in my constituency I am going to vote on who I think should win, the Lib Dems.</p><p>One more point. I often get the feeling that the local parties let the national party down as I keep seeing multiple comments complaining about the poor quality of local councillors. It worries me about them on a national level</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kai Hendry</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2010/04/why-im-joining-the-lib-dems/#comment-6519</link> <dc:creator>Kai Hendry</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 18:58:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=2015#comment-6519</guid> <description>I&#039;m pretty sold on the Conservative&#039;s pledge for high speed Internet.http://docs.google.com/gview?url=http://static.natalian.org/2010-04-25/Conservative_Technology_Manifesto2010.pdf&lt;blockquote&gt;
We will be the ﬁrst country in Europe to extend
superfast 100 mbps broadband across most
of the population. This is up to 50 times faster
than Labour’s planned broadband network.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;Though they don&#039;t give a time or plan how the hell they are going to do this. At least I can&#039;t stuff very easily on the Con&#039;s Web page.Also locally the LibDems in my area have my a hash of Walton Road. Disgrace. :( A fellow cyclist died on the road due to its incredibly poor condition.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sold on the Conservative&#8217;s pledge for high speed Internet.</p><p><a
href="http://docs.google.com/gview?url=http://static.natalian.org/2010-04-25/Conservative_Technology_Manifesto2010.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://docs.google.com/gview?url=http://static.natalian.org/2010-04-25/Conservative_Technology_Manifesto2010.pdf</a></p><blockquote><p> We will be the ﬁrst country in Europe to extend<br
/> superfast 100 mbps broadband across most<br
/> of the population. This is up to 50 times faster<br
/> than Labour’s planned broadband network.</p></blockquote><p>Though they don&#8217;t give a time or plan how the hell they are going to do this. At least I can&#8217;t stuff very easily on the Con&#8217;s Web page.</p><p>Also locally the LibDems in my area have my a hash of Walton Road. Disgrace. :( A fellow cyclist died on the road due to its incredibly poor condition.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Linkblogging For 25/04/10 &#171; Sci-Ence! Justice Leak!</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2010/04/why-im-joining-the-lib-dems/#comment-6512</link> <dc:creator>Linkblogging For 25/04/10 &#171; Sci-Ence! Justice Leak!</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 15:05:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=2015#comment-6512</guid> <description>[...] as a &#8216;natural Labour voter&#8217; who went into the election thinking he might vote for them, is joining the Lib Dems. I&#8217;m quite astonished at how many people I know, respect and like, but who have previously [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] as a &#8216;natural Labour voter&#8217; who went into the election thinking he might vote for them, is joining the Lib Dems. I&#8217;m quite astonished at how many people I know, respect and like, but who have previously [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tweets that mention Why I’m Joining The Lib Dems – Terence Eden has a Blog -- Topsy.com</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2010/04/why-im-joining-the-lib-dems/#comment-6510</link> <dc:creator>Tweets that mention Why I’m Joining The Lib Dems – Terence Eden has a Blog -- Topsy.com</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 14:20:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=2015#comment-6510</guid> <description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Andrew Hickey, Jennie Rigg. Jennie Rigg said: RT @stealthmunchkin: Good post here from @edent - a &#039;natural Labour voter&#039; who thought he might vote for them and is now joining Lib Dems http://bit.ly/akmP4S [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Andrew Hickey, Jennie Rigg. Jennie Rigg said: RT @stealthmunchkin: Good post here from @edent &#8211; a &#39;natural Labour voter&#39; who thought he might vote for them and is now joining Lib Dems <a
href="http://bit.ly/akmP4S" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/akmP4S</a> [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Andrew Hickey</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2010/04/why-im-joining-the-lib-dems/#comment-6509</link> <dc:creator>Andrew Hickey</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 14:07:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=2015#comment-6509</guid> <description>Welcome aboard!
One thing I&#039;d say as well is that we *are*, as a party, committed to nuclear disarmament - the party as a whole just want multilateral disarmament, and see retaining *some* nuclear weapons for a short time as a bargaining chip in negotiations. Personally I disagree - and there are a lot of unilateralists in the party like myself - but I can see the argument, and it&#039;s very different from the &#039;we need it to keep Britain important&#039; crap...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome aboard!<br
/> One thing I&#8217;d say as well is that we *are*, as a party, committed to nuclear disarmament &#8211; the party as a whole just want multilateral disarmament, and see retaining *some* nuclear weapons for a short time as a bargaining chip in negotiations. Personally I disagree &#8211; and there are a lot of unilateralists in the party like myself &#8211; but I can see the argument, and it&#8217;s very different from the &#8216;we need it to keep Britain important&#8217; crap&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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