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> <channel><title>Comments on: Police, Camera, Action&#8230;</title> <atom:link href="http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2009/06/police-camera-action/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2009/06/police-camera-action/</link> <description>Mobiles, Shakespeare, Politics, Usability.</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 17:59:37 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Helly Copeland</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2009/06/police-camera-action/#comment-10339</link> <dc:creator>Helly Copeland</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 19 Sep 2010 16:08:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=170#comment-10339</guid> <description>Hi TerenceHope you don&#039;t mind, but I&#039;ve linked into this story for my website.  I am campaigning against the abuse of disabled bays and blue badges.Any probs, please let me know...Thanks,Helly</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Terence</p><p>Hope you don&#8217;t mind, but I&#8217;ve linked into this story for my website.  I am campaigning against the abuse of disabled bays and blue badges.</p><p>Any probs, please let me know&#8230;</p><p>Thanks,</p><p>Helly</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Terence Eden has a Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Digital Economy Act &#8211; #DEAPPG</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2009/06/police-camera-action/#comment-9076</link> <dc:creator>Terence Eden has a Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Digital Economy Act &#8211; #DEAPPG</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:15:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=170#comment-9076</guid> <description>[...] in this piece, a very polite policeman told me photography wasn&#8217;t allowed.  While normally one to argue the toss on such matters &#8211; who knows what crazy laws protect Parliament.  As it happens, as soon as his back was [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in this piece, a very polite policeman told me photography wasn&#8217;t allowed.  While normally one to argue the toss on such matters &#8211; who knows what crazy laws protect Parliament.  As it happens, as soon as his back was [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: naomi</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2009/06/police-camera-action/#comment-5534</link> <dc:creator>naomi</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:24:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=170#comment-5534</guid> <description>Thats awful!
Have a look at these short films which highlight the difficulties faced by photographers and cinematographers:
http://www.worldbytes.org/programmes/013/013_003.html
http://www.worldbytes.org/programmes/013/013_004.html</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats awful!<br
/> Have a look at these short films which highlight the difficulties faced by photographers and cinematographers:<br
/> <a
href="http://www.worldbytes.org/programmes/013/013_003.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.worldbytes.org/programmes/013/013_003.html</a><br
/> <a
href="http://www.worldbytes.org/programmes/013/013_004.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.worldbytes.org/programmes/013/013_004.html</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: WH</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2009/06/police-camera-action/#comment-5128</link> <dc:creator>WH</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 13:54:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=170#comment-5128</guid> <description>You might be interested to know that the Met have just improved their guidelines to be much more sensible and public/journalist-friendly - summarised at http://blog.tech-and-law.com/2010/02/photographing-police-or-public-places.html where I&#039;ve linked to this post of yours by way of illustration.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might be interested to know that the Met have just improved their guidelines to be much more sensible and public/journalist-friendly &#8211; summarised at <a
href="http://blog.tech-and-law.com/2010/02/photographing-police-or-public-places.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.tech-and-law.com/2010/02/photographing-police-or-public-places.html</a> where I&#8217;ve linked to this post of yours by way of illustration.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: IanVisits &#187; Met Police Issue Advice to Amateur Photographers</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2009/06/police-camera-action/#comment-404</link> <dc:creator>IanVisits &#187; Met Police Issue Advice to Amateur Photographers</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 10:08:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=170#comment-404</guid> <description>[...] have been many reports of the police, and more often the hobby-bobbies (PCSO) who seem to treat photographers as a [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] have been many reports of the police, and more often the hobby-bobbies (PCSO) who seem to treat photographers as a [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Adonis</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2009/06/police-camera-action/#comment-253</link> <dc:creator>Adonis</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:06:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=170#comment-253</guid> <description>Clearly lmoore and Gemma Robinson seem to be doing significantly more on making sure this country and the people responsible for governing it are doing their job properly and honestly as possible.Well done Terence on actively trying to get the public aware of their rights, the police and government of their roles and capacity to which they&#039;ve been given power to enforce.Ignorance seems to be the current disease spreading through this country. see current news on European Elections as evidence, and videos of police brutality and abuse of power for reference. Only if you&#039;re not too busy doing something more important, interesting or engaging. I&#039;d advise the mention two to read the rest of the blog.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly lmoore and Gemma Robinson seem to be doing significantly more on making sure this country and the people responsible for governing it are doing their job properly and honestly as possible.</p><p>Well done Terence on actively trying to get the public aware of their rights, the police and government of their roles and capacity to which they&#8217;ve been given power to enforce.</p><p>Ignorance seems to be the current disease spreading through this country. see current news on European Elections as evidence, and videos of police brutality and abuse of power for reference. Only if you&#8217;re not too busy doing something more important, interesting or engaging. I&#8217;d advise the mention two to read the rest of the blog.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Farhan Rehman</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2009/06/police-camera-action/#comment-252</link> <dc:creator>Farhan Rehman</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:05:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=170#comment-252</guid> <description>Hey Terence
Thanks for posting this.. Most definitely there needs to be more awareness both on our side, as a publics, and also on the Police&#039;s side.  I think with the way that people heard about &#039;new restrictions&#039; coming into place, about being able to photograph police, it&#039;s easy to get lost in the sea of what&#039;s legally allowed, and what isn&#039;t.  I&#039;m glad to have caught this great, concise, and thorough take on the matter.. Thanks for sharing it ;)Will have to take some time out to read the detailed links coming off the article at some point and make sure I know my rights as well as you do, just in case I&#039;m ever accosted by police like you were ;)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Terence<br
/> Thanks for posting this.. Most definitely there needs to be more awareness both on our side, as a publics, and also on the Police&#8217;s side.  I think with the way that people heard about &#8216;new restrictions&#8217; coming into place, about being able to photograph police, it&#8217;s easy to get lost in the sea of what&#8217;s legally allowed, and what isn&#8217;t.  I&#8217;m glad to have caught this great, concise, and thorough take on the matter.. Thanks for sharing it ;)</p><p>Will have to take some time out to read the detailed links coming off the article at some point and make sure I know my rights as well as you do, just in case I&#8217;m ever accosted by police like you were ;)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Gemma Robinson</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2009/06/police-camera-action/#comment-247</link> <dc:creator>Gemma Robinson</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 07:46:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=170#comment-247</guid> <description>Nothing better to do with your time?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing better to do with your time?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: lmoore</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2009/06/police-camera-action/#comment-236</link> <dc:creator>lmoore</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 01:19:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=170#comment-236</guid> <description>you are a sad individual, isn&#039;t there anything more interesting you could be doing?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you are a sad individual, isn&#8217;t there anything more interesting you could be doing?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Officer Doesn&#8217;t Like Photograph of Misdeed &#171;</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2009/06/police-camera-action/#comment-226</link> <dc:creator>Officer Doesn&#8217;t Like Photograph of Misdeed &#171;</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 07:47:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=170#comment-226</guid> <description>[...] Eden writes on his blog that he took a photo of a police van parked in a disabled bay &#8211; or handicapped [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Eden writes on his blog that he took a photo of a police van parked in a disabled bay &#8211; or handicapped [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mr. Topp and the Big Bad Blog &#187; The morning coffee is superstitious about pants and hats</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2009/06/police-camera-action/#comment-225</link> <dc:creator>Mr. Topp and the Big Bad Blog &#187; The morning coffee is superstitious about pants and hats</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 06:36:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=170#comment-225</guid> <description>[...] in the UK, be warned: you can be hassled for taking photos of parked police vans. Photographers in Vancouver, worry not: police cannot take away your camera or delete your photos [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the UK, be warned: you can be hassled for taking photos of parked police vans. Photographers in Vancouver, worry not: police cannot take away your camera or delete your photos [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Police Still Believe They Can Order People To Delete Photographs &#171; Can&#8217;t hear this, you are in Audio Prison &#8230; Check what you listening to.</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2009/06/police-camera-action/#comment-220</link> <dc:creator>Police Still Believe They Can Order People To Delete Photographs &#171; Can&#8217;t hear this, you are in Audio Prison &#8230; Check what you listening to.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:05:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=170#comment-220</guid> <description>[...] Believe They Can Order People To Delete&#160;Photographs  Posted on June 18, 2009 by audioprison   Terence Eden’s Blog Thursday, June 18, [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Believe They Can Order People To Delete&nbsp;Photographs  Posted on June 18, 2009 by audioprison   Terence Eden’s Blog Thursday, June 18, [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Links For Thursday 18th June 2009 - Digitalia</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2009/06/police-camera-action/#comment-219</link> <dc:creator>Links For Thursday 18th June 2009 - Digitalia</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:09:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=170#comment-219</guid> <description>[...] Police, Camera, Action… – Terence Eden&#039;s Blog A good example of how knowing your rights dealing with and a situation politely and calmly can make all the difference in the world. Key thing to remember: the police have the power to look at your photos, but *not* to request you delete them. (tags: uk photography law) [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Police, Camera, Action… – Terence Eden&#39;s Blog A good example of how knowing your rights dealing with and a situation politely and calmly can make all the difference in the world. Key thing to remember: the police have the power to look at your photos, but *not* to request you delete them. (tags: uk photography law) [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Terence Eden</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2009/06/police-camera-action/#comment-217</link> <dc:creator>Terence Eden</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:53:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=170#comment-217</guid> <description>Many thanks for your comment clarifying the situation.  It&#039;s good to know that Surrey Police are actively into the issue of photographers&#039; rights.I&#039;m glad to see you engaging with the local community on blogs and &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/surreypolice&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;twitter&lt;/a&gt;. I believe this  is essential to building a well respected police force.Terence
(For the paranoid, yes, the IP address of the poster belongs to Surrey Police.)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks for your comment clarifying the situation.  It&#8217;s good to know that Surrey Police are actively into the issue of photographers&#8217; rights.</p><p>I&#8217;m glad to see you engaging with the local community on blogs and <a
href="http://twitter.com/surreypolice" rel="nofollow">twitter</a>. I believe this  is essential to building a well respected police force.</p><p>Terence<br
/> (For the paranoid, yes, the IP address of the poster belongs to Surrey Police.)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Surrey Police</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2009/06/police-camera-action/#comment-215</link> <dc:creator>Surrey Police</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:53:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=170#comment-215</guid> <description>The officer was responding to an emergency that had been resolved before your conversation, so the van was necessarily parked in a disabled bay. But, as you clearly state, this is not the real issue here. The officer was not justified in asking you to delete the photo and it&#039;s right for you to draw attention to this.
Interacting with private photographers or the media is not something police officers do on a regular basis, which means mistakes are sometimes made. In this case, the officer was quite new to the force and had not come across such a situation before. That said, you are not the first person to raise this and it is something Surrey Police has already started addressing.
We provide media awareness training to most front-line officers. In the future these sessions will make clearer the wide rights photographers have to record police activity, provided cordons are not crossed. We will also soon be distributing a short booklet of media advice, which includes information on photographers&#039; rights.
Thank-you for responding politely and explaining you objections logically to the officer. We would advise others who find themselves in a similar situation to do the same. It&#039;s also good to note that the situation was resolved using common-sense after discussion with the supervisor.
Surrey Police</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The officer was responding to an emergency that had been resolved before your conversation, so the van was necessarily parked in a disabled bay. But, as you clearly state, this is not the real issue here. The officer was not justified in asking you to delete the photo and it&#8217;s right for you to draw attention to this.</p><p>Interacting with private photographers or the media is not something police officers do on a regular basis, which means mistakes are sometimes made. In this case, the officer was quite new to the force and had not come across such a situation before. That said, you are not the first person to raise this and it is something Surrey Police has already started addressing.</p><p>We provide media awareness training to most front-line officers. In the future these sessions will make clearer the wide rights photographers have to record police activity, provided cordons are not crossed. We will also soon be distributing a short booklet of media advice, which includes information on photographers&#8217; rights.</p><p>Thank-you for responding politely and explaining you objections logically to the officer. We would advise others who find themselves in a similar situation to do the same. It&#8217;s also good to note that the situation was resolved using common-sense after discussion with the supervisor.</p><p>Surrey Police</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bendy Girl</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2009/06/police-camera-action/#comment-210</link> <dc:creator>Bendy Girl</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 08:59:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=170#comment-210</guid> <description>Hi Terence, I picked up this post on twitter last night but hadn&#039;t realised it originated from you . I&#039;ve amended my blog to link here, apologies, Bendy Girl</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Terence, I picked up this post on twitter last night but hadn&#8217;t realised it originated from you . I&#8217;ve amended my blog to link here, apologies, Bendy Girl</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mo</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2009/06/police-camera-action/#comment-204</link> <dc:creator>Mo</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:56:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=170#comment-204</guid> <description>It&#039;s worth noting also that if she thought you&#039;d committed an offence by taking the photo, by asking you to delete it, she&#039;d be asking you to tamper with evidence—which itself is a criminal offence.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s worth noting also that if she thought you&#8217;d committed an offence by taking the photo, by asking you to delete it, she&#8217;d be asking you to tamper with evidence—which itself is a criminal offence.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Cybergibbons</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2009/06/police-camera-action/#comment-202</link> <dc:creator>Cybergibbons</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:13:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=170#comment-202</guid> <description>Julie - if the policewoman can&#039;t prioritise these two fairly distinct tasks, then she needs another job.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie &#8211; if the policewoman can&#8217;t prioritise these two fairly distinct tasks, then she needs another job.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: myReport &#187; UK cop: &#8216;War on terror means no pictures of police vans in disabled parking spots&#8217;</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2009/06/police-camera-action/#comment-200</link> <dc:creator>myReport &#187; UK cop: &#8216;War on terror means no pictures of police vans in disabled parking spots&#8217;</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 05:49:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=170#comment-200</guid> <description>[...] Police, Camera, Action&#8230; [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Police, Camera, Action&#8230; [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Alan Lodge [tash]</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2009/06/police-camera-action/#comment-194</link> <dc:creator>Alan Lodge [tash]</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:42:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=170#comment-194</guid> <description>Nottinghamshire Police vehicle. What is wrong here?
Nottinghamshire Police vehicle,  parked on double yellows, while his mate goes into Sainsbury’s
http://tashuk.wordpress.com/2009/05/07/nottinghamshire-police-vehicle-what-is-wrong-here/You might consider it petty of me, but I have made and official complaint.  Like most folks, in the past, I would have just let it go, that’s the police for you. But the links below,  show an increased belligerence in dealing with photographers and I have hundreds of other examples. They show that I might have been arrested in the attempt to shift blame. I might have been assaulted, my camera kit seized as ‘evidence’ with months of  arguement, to get it back.  So if this is the atmosphere, then I think we should all note these kind of matters and do something about it, until ‘they’ stop being so bloody awkward to us.  So there!!!UPdate: have a letter now from police saying that  that complaint is suitable for local resolution due to INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE. I&#039;m not finished yet.  Tash</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nottinghamshire Police vehicle. What is wrong here?<br
/> Nottinghamshire Police vehicle,  parked on double yellows, while his mate goes into Sainsbury’s<br
/> <a
href="http://tashuk.wordpress.com/2009/05/07/nottinghamshire-police-vehicle-what-is-wrong-here/" rel="nofollow">http://tashuk.wordpress.com/2009/05/07/nottinghamshire-police-vehicle-what-is-wrong-here/</a></p><p>You might consider it petty of me, but I have made and official complaint.  Like most folks, in the past, I would have just let it go, that’s the police for you. But the links below,  show an increased belligerence in dealing with photographers and I have hundreds of other examples. They show that I might have been arrested in the attempt to shift blame. I might have been assaulted, my camera kit seized as ‘evidence’ with months of  arguement, to get it back.  So if this is the atmosphere, then I think we should all note these kind of matters and do something about it, until ‘they’ stop being so bloody awkward to us.  So there!!!</p><p>UPdate: have a letter now from police saying that  that complaint is suitable for local resolution due to INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE. I&#8217;m not finished yet.  Tash</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jason</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2009/06/police-camera-action/#comment-193</link> <dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:57:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=170#comment-193</guid> <description>Except we&#039;re not, actually, talking about a life here, PC Smith came &lt;i&gt;from the building.&lt;/i&gt; So either she left a tense situation upon hearing that a photographer had a shot of her vehicle in a disabled bay, or the situation was resolved. The real question is, if what she did was in fact on the level and part of an emergency situation, where are &lt;i&gt;her&lt;/i&gt; priorities in devoting time to attempting to get the photo deleted? How could the picture matter?It was a fine time and place, and it&#039;s good that Terence stood his ground and reminded an officer of both the limits of her power and the nature of the technology.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except we&#8217;re not, actually, talking about a life here, PC Smith came <i>from the building.</i> So either she left a tense situation upon hearing that a photographer had a shot of her vehicle in a disabled bay, or the situation was resolved. The real question is, if what she did was in fact on the level and part of an emergency situation, where are <i>her</i> priorities in devoting time to attempting to get the photo deleted? How could the picture matter?</p><p>It was a fine time and place, and it&#8217;s good that Terence stood his ground and reminded an officer of both the limits of her power and the nature of the technology.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Here is a police van in a disabled bay &#171; 853</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2009/06/police-camera-action/#comment-192</link> <dc:creator>Here is a police van in a disabled bay &#171; 853</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:43:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=170#comment-192</guid> <description>[...] UPDATE &#8211; Snapper Terence Eden writes on his blog: &#8220;I want to make it quite clear that I have no reason to disbelieve PC Smith when she said [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] UPDATE &#8211; Snapper Terence Eden writes on his blog: &#8220;I want to make it quite clear that I have no reason to disbelieve PC Smith when she said [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Julie Brandon</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2009/06/police-camera-action/#comment-191</link> <dc:creator>Julie Brandon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:42:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=170#comment-191</guid> <description>Hmmmm... priorities, surely?In this particular instance... we&#039;re talking about, potentially, someone&#039;s life here - so why were you even bothering to fight this one?  Priorities!  In this instance, surely it would have been better to have agreed to delete the photograph the moment you had any idea she was on a potentially important call out, than to have argued the point and demonstrated that you are correct?I&#039;m totally with you on the crap that you can get from the police and government officials trying to stop you photographing (I&#039;ve been caught out by it myself, when trying to do some demo work for a client once, who&#039;s building was buy a government building - got an ear bashing, lol.)You have a very valid point...  however, surely there&#039;s a time and a place?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm&#8230; priorities, surely?</p><p>In this particular instance&#8230; we&#8217;re talking about, potentially, someone&#8217;s life here &#8211; so why were you even bothering to fight this one?  Priorities!  In this instance, surely it would have been better to have agreed to delete the photograph the moment you had any idea she was on a potentially important call out, than to have argued the point and demonstrated that you are correct?</p><p>I&#8217;m totally with you on the crap that you can get from the police and government officials trying to stop you photographing (I&#8217;ve been caught out by it myself, when trying to do some demo work for a client once, who&#8217;s building was buy a government building &#8211; got an ear bashing, lol.)</p><p>You have a very valid point&#8230;  however, surely there&#8217;s a time and a place?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jake Byrne</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2009/06/police-camera-action/#comment-189</link> <dc:creator>Jake Byrne</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:50:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=170#comment-189</guid> <description>Section 76 of the Counter Terrorism Act, the key point is whether the photo is &quot;likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism&quot;.
http://tinyurl.com/crd9mp
http://tinyurl.com/bzg7qu</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Section 76 of the Counter Terrorism Act, the key point is whether the photo is &#8220;likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism&#8221;.<br
/> <a
href="http://tinyurl.com/crd9mp" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/crd9mp</a><br
/> <a
href="http://tinyurl.com/bzg7qu" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/bzg7qu</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Vincenzo</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2009/06/police-camera-action/#comment-188</link> <dc:creator>Vincenzo</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:48:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=170#comment-188</guid> <description>I&#039;m sure if she could have wiped your memory of ever seeing her van parked there, she would have (a la Men In Black &quot;Flashy Thing&quot;). I like to use that premise when defending photographic evidence. It&#039;s illogical to presume police have the rights over the still images  someone can take with a camera as they don&#039;t have rights to the mental image and details of an event someone could record and recount later. Maybe a stretch but it wins a lot of arguments, and as a freelance photographer, it comes in to play a lot.Be well, keep documenting and sharing.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure if she could have wiped your memory of ever seeing her van parked there, she would have (a la Men In Black &#8220;Flashy Thing&#8221;). I like to use that premise when defending photographic evidence. It&#8217;s illogical to presume police have the rights over the still images  someone can take with a camera as they don&#8217;t have rights to the mental image and details of an event someone could record and recount later. Maybe a stretch but it wins a lot of arguments, and as a freelance photographer, it comes in to play a lot.</p><p>Be well, keep documenting and sharing.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Richard Rothwell</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2009/06/police-camera-action/#comment-187</link> <dc:creator>Richard Rothwell</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:28:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=170#comment-187</guid> <description>I have a letter from Vernon Coaker saying that I can photograph policemen - have a look at: http://cockspiracy.blogspot.com/2009/06/vernon-coker-says-i-can-take-pictures.htmlrgds,
Richard</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a letter from Vernon Coaker saying that I can photograph policemen &#8211; have a look at: <a
href="http://cockspiracy.blogspot.com/2009/06/vernon-coker-says-i-can-take-pictures.html" rel="nofollow">http://cockspiracy.blogspot.com/2009/06/vernon-coker-says-i-can-take-pictures.html</a></p><p>rgds,<br
/> Richard</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: David Gerard</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2009/06/police-camera-action/#comment-186</link> <dc:creator>David Gerard</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:24:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=170#comment-186</guid> <description>I wonder how many times they need to ask photo deletion of people who know better and are prepared to go down to the bureaucratic wire on the matter before they stop asking for it. Not enough yet, obviously.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how many times they need to ask photo deletion of people who know better and are prepared to go down to the bureaucratic wire on the matter before they stop asking for it. Not enough yet, obviously.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: steve carr</title><link>http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2009/06/police-camera-action/#comment-185</link> <dc:creator>steve carr</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:18:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=170#comment-185</guid> <description>Fascinating! I think you handled it perfectly. Also been honest regarding the whole context. Ill remember the stuff about being asked to delete pictures.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating! I think you handled it perfectly. Also been honest regarding the whole context. Ill remember the stuff about being asked to delete pictures.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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